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hello on this easter sunday, you're in the cnn newsroom. i'm ana cabrera. two clargss from the president expressing two different sentiments, happy easter and no more daca deal. those words from the president tweeted out this morning shortly before he and the first lady went to church in florida. his message in all caps seems to indicate that he's finished negotiating with democrats on reaching a deal to help protect undocumented immigrants looking for the u.s. as children.
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white house correspondent boris sanchez joins us in south florida. the president has gone back and forth in his support of daca and promises to kill it then tweets he's happy with it then like today he's back to killing it again. what are you hearing about this particular statement? >> hey there, ana, lawmakers, a certain number of them are not too happy about this. i heard from a source at the congressional hispanic caucus, they are not thrilled about this statement either. it brings up a number of questions where the president stands on the issue, not only of immigration because he said so many contradictory things specifically about dreamers but also his position on nafta threatening to pull out of the north american free trade agreement if mexico doesn't do more to curtail immigration from central america and in his words drugs flowing into the united states. it's a threat he's made multiple times. we really haven't seen any sort of changes come from mexico because of these threats further
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we should point out the president is calling the daca deal dead, weeks after it races of daca deal stalled and fell apart in congress. one of them had protections for dreamers that would last three years in exchange for $25 billion what the president wanted for funding on the border wall. ultimately that deal did not go through. the president had more to say before walking into easter service here this morning. listen to what he said. >> mexico has got to help us at the border. if they are not going to help us at the border, it's a very sad thing between two countries, mexico has got to up us at the border and a lot of people are coming in because they want to take advantage of daca and we're going to have to really see. they had a great chance, the democrats blew it and had a great, great chance.
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but we'll have to take a look. mexico has got to help us at the border. they flow right through mexico and can't happen that way anymore. thank you. >> two quick points there, ana, the president keeps saying mexico has to help us when it comes to immigration but not saying what he had been saying for years about mexico paying for the border wall that comes on the heels of a report that the president consulted with the secretary of defense james mattis about having military funding being dedicated for the construction of the border wall. and further this idea that immigrants are coming to the united states now to take advantage of daca, not clear what the president means by that, anyone who would arrive today and set aside egg eligibility rules won't be eligible because the president ended that program back in september, ana. >> boris sanchez for us in west palm beach, florida. by the way, i like your easter colors you're wearing as well.
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happy easter, my friend. let's bring in washington bureau chief for the chicago sun times lynn sweet and alice stewart. thanks for being with us on easter xgt one nation he's wishing a happy easter and then railing on democrats and the mexican government and throwing a grenade on daca. where is this coming from? >> it's coming -- one literal answer may be he was inspired by a report dealing with immigration on fox news. but let's get to the bigger picture where it's coming from is his inability to even take one holiday off from creating chaos and by the way, adding stress to the dreamers who and their families real people who might have wanted to try to have a holiday weekend in peace. i mean, the united states, this is a big holiday weekend, everyone knows that with passover and easter and to be
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unnecessarily provocative just shows i think it's coming from a place inside the president where he can't stop and think will these series of tweets help advance my agenda. we know it appeals to his base but will it advance the agenda. it seems he could have both but when he fires off these grenades, alice and ana, it just makes it harder. >> alice, that's a good point. where does the president want this to end up subpoena the big question. when the president says no more daca deal in all caps that seems an awfully long way from the bill of love he once spoke about. >> certainly. in the president's mind, i would love to have a reprieve from politics on this day but i would imagine the president's mind those two tweets that you showed at the top of the show in his mind, they are similar, happy easter is about the resurrection of jesus christ and the other tweet is about the resurrection of his call for a tougher border security. look, this isn't anything he
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hasn't said before. he's been very clear with regard to majority of american people do want protections for dreamers and president has been clear. he's fine with making that concession to provide protections for dreamers but wants it with the assurances that democrats will help to fund this wall that mexico was supposed to pay for. he's being quite clear that daca is off the table if we don't make some agreements on the border protection. >> but hasn't he dismissed potential deals that would have given him just that in the past? >> sure, yes, he has. also, furtherance to what we heard at the top of the show, the latest calls against mexico were hearing about this caravan of people coming from through mexico into the united states and pushing back again on mexico for not securing the border and keeping people out of our country. this is his way of saying, look, mexico, if you don't help us to secure the border on your side,
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we're going to do away with nafta and the financial benefits you get from that and telling democrats, look, if you don't help to fund this border wall, then we're going to take daca off the table. he's being quite clear on something that he said this many times this is just the latest iteration of his call for if you want some concessions on dac axgts a, we have to talk about securing the border. >> i want to switch to another topic. i think it's worth noting. the people currently marching in mexico, this is an annual pilgrimage, not like these are folks coming to the border and trying to bust through it necessarily. but let me move on to another topic that i think is important to talk about, veterans affair secretary david shulkin was on air today and white house says he resigned but here's what he said. >> were you fired or did you resign. >> jake, i came to run the department of veteran affairs because i'm committed to
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veterans and committed to fighting for them. i would not resign because i'm committed to making sure this was seen through to the very end. >> you were fired? >> i did not resign. >> he's not exactly going away quietly and in the same interview he was careful not to criticize the president directly. what do you make of this? >> i make of it that he didn't want to provide anyone with a sound byte saying i was fired because that would probably be useful to him and he seems pretty media savvy on this one. he doesn't direct trump directly because he can be more effective by attacking people around him saying i'm not -- we're leaving the president alone but to people around him that were trying to force policies, at the va that would not be good for veterans. so this is very much a strategic messaging point and i'm not speaking to the accuracy of it because i guess there has been some debate on that. but that's what you saw in this interview with jake, and yes, he's outspoken.
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yes he's said in the op-ed, he suggested privatization was at the core of his dismissal, not any flap about his travel. he was on multiple -- he's making the media rounds and there's a kind of rule in politics that you keep your friends close and enemies closer. this might be an example of why that is a rule in politics. >> alice, there's another book out about this administration, the trump white house changing the rules of the game, the author claiming that the president's counselor and former campaign manager kellyanne conway is the number one leaker in trump's white house. take a listen. >> while i was interviewing kellyanne at the white house, she forgot she was on the record and started lashing into reince priebus and said the most mean cutting and obviously untrue things about reince and i didn't include them in the book because they were so unfair. i know that white house aides have seen texts that she has
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sent to other journalists, dising her colleagues and leaking material and so if you wonder why there's so many leaks out of the white house, one reason is that kellyanne is the number one leaker. >> alice, we know the president and kellyanne conway are close. her name has been brought up as perhaps hope hicks' successor, whether it's true or not, how will it go over with the president? >> well, look, kellyanne is a friend of mine. i speak with her as well as a lot of people at the white house. on a regular basis. and the president has full confidence in her. ana, you've been around long f enough the reason people leak, they want to look like a big shot to reporters and number two they want to take someone down. lynn talks to them all the time. those are key reasons a lot of times people leak. first of all kellyanne is a big shot, doesn't need to prove herself in that bay way to repos and it's not in nature to go
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behind their back and take them down. clearly this author may have felt like she was providing more information than others but that's not in her nature to leak information and be disparaging to other people and doesn't have anything to prove. my understanding, the president has full confidence in her an this isn't going to alter her standing in the white house in any way. >> lynn, here's what conway has said about white house leaks in the past. >> if people are running to the media to leak and not providing the information to the proper authorities, that can -- that should concern all of us. that is not -- >> kellyanne, that's dangerous. >> it's not a partisan issue. >> lynn, what's your reaction to this idea that she could be behind some of it? >> i think you would have to have a lot more information. reporters don't want to reveal information about sources one way or the other.
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this south or is done with his book and has no need to talk to kellyanne conway again. i'm not saying a reporter protects people but i want people to know that there is if you have something to say or some information, the reporter knows it and writes it and just from a professional perspective from my account, i see no one who really talks about leakers who gets good leaks which is what i'm trying to do right now. >> all right, alice stewart and lynn sweet, we'll let it go there. thank you both. >> thank you. >> coming up, schools are expected to be closed tomorrow in oklahoma as teachers plan to walk off the job. some say they need to work as many as six jobs to make ends meet. why they say it isn't just about the money next.
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caters weddings because a master's degree and 20 years experience barely brings a living wage in oklahoma. >> you can see where my net pay was less than 1200. i was being liberal but just over $1,000 -- >> correct. >> and that's for -- >> that's one month. >> that's a month? >> the most desperate, sell blood and some like this former marine and special ed teacher rely on church soup kitchens to eat. >> i've helped at food banks and helped deliver food and do all of those things i never thought i would be on the receiving end. i have to swallow my pride a lot and i hate asking for help. >> this state has long been the state with the deepest cuts to education. >> but something about the west virginia strike helped turn oklahoma anger to action. >> i mean i got on facebook and typed in oklahoma teacher walkout and nothing popped up. why not be the guy that makes the group.
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now it has 72,000 people. >> it just started with you sending to a couple of teacher friends. >> and they invilted other teacher friends and it exploded. you don't get -- you don't get 72,000 people in a group in three weeks if there's not a problem. >> just the threat of a walkout was enough to force the first new taxes here in 28 years. enough to give teachers an average rate of 6,000 bucks but it's a fraction of their demand. so they are still walking but for how long? how will this affect arizona where teachers there are staging the next red state revolt? >> the difference between a strike and walkout is you're not defying the school. the superintendent is behind you but could it turn into a strike if things got nasty? >> a lot of the superintendents say they support teachers and support what teachers want to do. i feel like as long as teachers want to stay out to fight for what we're fighting for, i think there will be lots of support. >> teachers are not the only
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300,000 south korean forces. the drills come amid a bit of -- on the korean peninsula. kim jong-un and south korean president moon jae-in are set to hold a historic summit ahead of kim jong-un's planned meeting with president trump. right now the annual joint drills are sending a message of power. the u.s. is showing up with its newest most expensive war planes. >> projecting power into the asia pacific. the u.s. military deploying its newest war machines in this vast and prosperous region. the navy and marines invited journalists to see the new f-35-b lightning 2 on board the uss wasp. commanders say they are making history with this war plane's first maritime deployment.
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>> first time we have a fifth generation stealth fighter capability deployed as part of on ship and helps with our rapid deployment. >> but with a projected pricetag of nearly $1 trillion over the lifetime of this stealth fighter program, the f-35 is the world's most expensive weapon system. a recent pentagon report listed that as of october 2017, there were 263 unresolved high priority performance deficiencies but the top commander here insists the war plane is now combat ready. >> these deficiencies have all been resolved and they are full up and ready to execute combat missions if called upon. >> the f-35 is just part of the enormous arsenal the u.s. has deployed here. >> we're landing on the uss duey, a navy destroyer that's part of the first line of
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defense. u.s. and its allies here at the asia pacific region. >> this guided missile destroyer bristles with offensive and defensive weapons. >> this 50 caliber machine gub fun is the last line of defense for the warship but the destroyer is also equipped with the aegis weapon system that can detect ballistic missiles launched from countries like north korea and rapidly share that information with other warships. >> in 2017, north korea launched 23 missiles with two flying over japan. >> but even though pyongyang also threatened to target the u.s. eisland of guam, the navy never used its missile defense system to shoot down any missiles. >> there wasn't a determination that there was a specific threat on any specific population but more importantly the capability does exist with the platform to
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defend against ballistic missile attack. >> the uss wasp and its f-35s are heading to south korea soon to participate in joint military drills. this year washington is downplaying these annual war games. now that president trump plans a historic face to face meeting with north korea's leader. if this experimented diplomacy fails however, the u.s. military is making clear its prepared to use force to protect the u.s. and its allies in the pacific. ivan watson, cnn, with the u.s. navy in the pill philippine sea. >> a lot to talk about regarding north korea. joining us now, the state department senior adviser and fellow at the world policy institute. kim jong-un fired off four missiles but the back drop is different. would you be surprised if north
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korea did nothing this time around? >> well, not at all. i think we have to remember, that actually these joint military exercises are really the nominal reason or the cause frankly of north korea's missile launches. it's always the excuse that north korea has used but they are really not the cause for north korea's missile development. they are an annual exercise and they really are for defense and deterrence purposes on the part of the united states and south korea. >> so jonathan, given that kim jong-un has said he's not going to do anything during the drills to set the stage for the upcoming meeting with trump, does it give the u.s. the upper hand? >> i'm not sure it gives us the upper hand but it is a good thing we are continuing to do this and i think that kim jong-un realizes that there is -- there was little to no chance that we weren't going to go through with this or that south korea would ask us not to. it's also these exercises -- these are the largest but we
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have many joint exercises with south korea that happen throughout the year, more than 60 actually in a given year. and so i think that he was very shrewd to make -- make it clear that this would not get in the way of diplomacy. >> i guess you could in some ways say well, kim jong-un is not firing off missiles, he is doing some maneuvering because we covered this week the secret meeting in china between kim jong-un and the chinese leader. do you think there was some posturing happening with that? >> well, most certainly there is. i think it's important to remember that first of all, north korea has nothing to gain by actually indeed creating any kind of provokation and also, let's be very clear, let's not give north korea any credit for not doing anything. you know, this is where we are, we're to the point that we're actually giving north korea credit for not doing what it was
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supposed to not be doing, despite numerous sanctions and numerous decades and numerous agreements that it already -- >> it never stopped them before, right? there's been a change. >> exactly. >> that's exactly the point. so again, we're to this point where we're now actually praising north korea for not doing all of this. again, we have reached the stage where giving north korea credit for things it's already promised it wasn't supposed to do. >> jonathan, we know -- go ahead. >> i was going to say, in fact it is a posturing on numerous other levels and i think we ought to be very careful that north korea is playing multiple games here and it's not just about trying to make one deal with the united states. >> we've talked a lot about how china is such a crucial player in this region and jonathan with the meeting that happened this week, how do you see that impacting potentially the upcoming meeting between president trump and kim jong-un? >> i think it took us all by surprise when the meeting happened but in hindsight which is 20/20 it probably shouldn't
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have. the idea that kim jong-un would meet with his enemies before he meets with a friend, i think is probably a bit far fetched. and i think that there probably was at the very least some sharing of strategy, maybe some discussion of how can we take this opportunity where trump is willing to meet with kim jong-un to potentially crack the u.s. south korean alliance. and that's something that is in the shared interest of china and north korea. of course, the shared interest of everyone in the region is preventing a u.s. preventive war against north korea but the sort of number two goal is very much opposed. the south koreans being to keep the u.s. there and north koreans and to keep the u.s. out and there's strategizing on how best to talk about that. >> you talk about not giving credit or an inch to kim jong-un. there are new u.s. sanctions imposed on north korea this past
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week. what is the message sent with that action? >> i hope it's the correct message which is that that the united states is going to enter into any sort of meeting with north korea in the strongest position possible into any sort of meeting. and i hope that i didn't misunderstand jonathan incorrectly, i hope you weren't saying that everybody including the united states that the one goal that we don't -- want to avoid is this -- that the u.s. has a preventive war. i'm not so sure -- you know, it's not about preventing the united states from striking north korea first, i really think that people are focused on the wrong goal here. look, we all want to avoid war. i don't think anybody in the united states wants to start a war for the sake of war. i think the point is that nobody wants north korea to go and become a dangerous nuclear weapon state.
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but if the war is going to start because of north korea, not because of the united states. >> here's what republican senator lindsey graham had to say about the incoming in national security adviser john bolton's north korea position. >> i would be very cautious about the terms and conditions of this meeting and this is why i like john bolton as national security adviser. he's a very healthy skeptic sxs in north korea bolton since his nomination to be the new secretary of state, he does have a reputation of being more hawkish and has advocated the bloody nose strikes with north korea. it's interesting what we hear lindsey graham picking up, he's skeptical but yet let me really quick finish. the president seems to have confidence that this is going to reresult in something tangible. >> yes, well, i think we should absolutely be skeptical about north korea. north korea has a history of
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breaking every agreement they sign. they are bad actors and almost every way. but just to go back quickly to before, i also think that they are unlikely to just provoke a war with the south of the united states out of nowhere. i think they can be contained and can be deterred. i think there's concern in south korea as well as north korea and china that the u.s. will launch a preventive strike. if the north were about to attack, we should attack them and i think trump's maximum pressure policy is a good one and has achieved some results. but i think that bolton coming in does make me a bit anxious that the talks coming up could be used if they fail as an excuse to go to the military option. >> all right, god to leave it there. thank you so much. i really appreciate it. thanks for spending part. holiday weekend with us. thank you. >> we'll be right back.
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tensions are escalating between protesters and police in california. >> what do we want? >> justice. >> what do we want? >> now. >> these fro testers marched again last night demanding justice for 22-year-old stephon clark. the outrage intensifying after a demonstrator was struck and injured by a sheriff's deputy's car who drove away and it was caught on camera. just a warning here, some may find this video disturbing. here's ryan young. >> othe protests have been loud but peaceful. last night we saw something between the anger of protesters and law enforcement trying to keep the peace. there were sheriff's deputies coming down the lane and protesters started interacting with them. sheriff's deputies felt their car was being rocked back and
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forth and back window was broken. protesters say that's not what happened. they believe a woman tried to stipulate in front of the car and stop deputies from driving through. there's video showing that interaction where a woman seems to be bumped down to the ground. you can hear protesters screaming and yelling and saying stop, stop, stop. the sheriff's deputy car kept moving on. now we know the highway patrol will be looking into the incident. that only seemed to anger protesters and over the next two hours we saw people yelling towards law enforcement and they arrived in riot gear. this is the first time we've seen that tipping point where the anger and the making sure their voices were heard and idea that something could kind of seem like it was going to go wrong. there was a helicopter overhead screaming it was now time to disburse. the crowd wasn't going anywhere for several hours. we do know now that the california highway patrol is going to be investigating this situation. as you look back at the street now, it's completely open. but down here for a while we saw that standoff between officers
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and the protesters. look this has been going on for over a week. where protesters have been able to walk through the streets and sort of like just yell as much as they want to. we haven't seen any damage. last night was the first time we saw that standoff with the rye i don't think ot gear and anger boiling over. this is six miles from downtown. a different agency was involved. not sure if there is going to be any more planned protest tonight. we'll have to watch and see. >> thank you so much, ryan young for us. >> russia just test fired its most advanced nuclear missile. this one can supposedly carry enough nuclear power to wipe out the state of texas. just how concerned are u.s. officials? that's next. you're live in the cnn newsroom. -looks great, honey. -right? sometimes you need an expert.
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russia claims that successfully launched an intercontinent at ballistic missile capable of carrying so much nuclear power it could wipe out texas. moscow released this video. it is one of the new weapon systems that vladimir putin claims is invincible. cnn's brian todd has more on just how concerned u.s. officials are by this new threat. brian? >> ana, we're told we're watching the development very closely. this is fire power that putin has been krouing about for weeks and now his missile threat to the u.s. has taken another it is powerful, provocative, and now it's on public display.
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vladimir putin's latest threat to america is this intercontinental ballistic missile officially nicknamed as the satan 2 for its deadly force. it was rolled out by russia in high definition. putin says it has virtually no limitations on distance capable of reaching the united states. >> translator: it is capable of attacking targets via both the north and south pole. this is a formidable weapon. no system, not even missile defense systems, are an obstacle due to its carriharacteristicch. >> reporter: this dramatic test firing which experts say was meant to send a signal to the u.s. comes on the heels of putin's grandiose presentation of other russian weapons systems a few weeks ago. including a cruise missile which can fly low to the ground, weave
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around obstacles and enemy radar and is powered by a nuclear engine onboard as well as this unmanned underwater drone launched from a submarine t. it could carry a nuclear warhead directly to an enemy city. u.s. officials tell cnn they have doubts many of these weapons are near operational, but experts say the russians will get there and for putin there's a bigger game afoot. what's his motivation here? >> he has two audiences. first is his domestic audience to show russians that russia is still a great military power. the other audience is always the conversation, the united states, to show us he's a force to be reckoned with. >> reporter: putin is now if an all-out diplomatic brawl with the u.s. and its allies over the poisoning of sergei skrapal and his daughter in britain.
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after dozens of russian diplomats were kicked out, he is expelling western diplomats from russia. according to politico russia's new ambassador to the u.s. antonov has complained in a letter to republican senator orrin hatch he can't get meetings with anyone in the white house, with cabinet secretaries or members of congress. if that's true, why would he be shut out? >> no doubt if i'm in the administration the last person i want to see on my calendar is the ambassador of russia to the united states at least right now. and if i'm going to do it i'm going to do it in a way that is incredibly transparent, lots of people in the room and i will be protected. number two, it is very much in response to the poisoning in the uk and the evidence russia was behind it. >> reporter: but now the white house is saying that the ambassador's claim is not true. a white house official telling cnn they've always been very responsive to antonov, that he's met several times with officials throughout the year and they've
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encouraged others in the u.s. government to meet with him. this official points out that's access the u.s. ambassador to russia jon huntsman has not been granted in moscow. ana? >> brian todd, thank you. up next, the "roseanne" reboot has seen record ratings. the revival is giving a voice to trump's base while breathing life into the star's right-wing conspiracy theories.
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conspiracy theories. thank you for making america great again. >> reporter: the "roseanne" revival drew more than since 2014 which means more eyeballs on the show's lead who is no stranger to politics and controversy. >> to start curing this world i am officially announcing i am running for president of the united states of america. as well as prime minister of israel. this is a two fer. >> reporter: she's a trump supporter who seems to be taking a page from the president's playbook and causing controversy on twitter. this week barr faced backlash for tweeting a doctored image of a parkland student activist accusing him of giving the nazi salute at saturday's march for our lives rally. it wasn't a far leap from past popes. this one just last november engaging a deep state conspiracy
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or post election one of barr's tweets backed the pizza gate conspiracy which said some were part of a sex trafficking ring in the basement of a washington pizza restaurant. barr spread the conspiracy there was a cover-up involving the death of dnc staffer ridge. her twitter account has since been scrubbed of these tweets. >> i didn't mean to imply you're some right-wing jackass. i should have tried to understand why you voted the crazy way that you did. >> reporter: but the star's posts aren't stunning her fans who tuned in heavily for the reboot's premiere with heavy viewership in red stiates. in tulsa, one in five households watched. the president took notice and called her to congratulate her. >> look at roseanne, i called her yesterday. look at her ratings. i got a call from mark burnett who did "the apprentice." donald, i called just to say
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hello and to tell you, did you see roseanne's ratings? i said, mark, how big were they? they were unbelievable. over 18 million people, and it was about us. >> reporter: for roseanne on screen and off the feelings for the president are mutual. >> trump offended half americans, she offended the other half. so that's great for sitcoms. we're lucky to have him as a president. >> reporter: conservatives around the country riding the wave of the actress' popularity. fox host sean hannity begging for an interview with barr even offering for her to host his show. cnn, new york. hello on this easter sunday. you are in the cnn newsroom. i'm ana cabrera in new york. right now south of the u.s. border in mexico a mass of people is on the move, more than 1,000 strong, heading towards the united states.

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